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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833296">(May 16 2019 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hello <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@T-compiler/WG-meta</span> =) Meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833371" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833371">(May 16 2019 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess let's start by looking at the open pull requests on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pulls" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pulls">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pulls</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833392">(May 16 2019 at 18:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/94" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/94">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/94</a> -- triage notes -- I'll merge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833459" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833459">(May 16 2019 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Add a repository for cargo-lockfile-sync <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/89" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/89">compiler-team#89</a> -- this is still waiting for "checkboxes" from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116466">@Zoxc</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123586">@nagisa</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121053">@varkor</span>. Hard to imagine it's that controversial. =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833480">(May 16 2019 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>[WIP] Create static web page for the compiler team with zola <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/83" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/83">compiler-team#83</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833547">(May 16 2019 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>From most recent comment by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="217515">@Federico Carrone</span> </p>
<p>Tasks left:<br>
- add removed files by mistake<br>
- manually add title to all documents and dates to all files<br>
- add links between files<br>
- only entries from a blog folder should be added to the blog index that sits at the root. i don't know why some entries are being added by zola automatically. <br>
- clean commits</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833566" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833566">(May 16 2019 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've not had a chance to run this locally since the most recent changes to it, I might try take a look at it soon or just wait until it's ready.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Federico Carrone <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833783">(May 16 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Today I will add the title and dates to all the files and readd 3 missing files. After that most of the work that is left is to change the markdown contents and add links between the documents. It is easy but boring work :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833784">(May 16 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  btw, once folks have ticked their boxes on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/80" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/80">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/80</a>, should I then turn it into a proper RFC?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833841">(May 16 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> I don't know that you have to wait</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833844">(May 16 2019 at 18:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>that was just a poll</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833919">(May 16 2019 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> ah; OK; i'll make it into a proper RFC soon-ish then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833925">(May 16 2019 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>(some nits to work out first)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833967">(May 16 2019 at 18:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, next PR..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165833994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165833994">(May 16 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Er, that's it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834012">(May 16 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, looking at the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues">issues list</a>...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834034">(May 16 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>contributor RFC <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/88" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/88">compiler-team#88</a>  is assigned to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834051" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834051">(May 16 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thnk I updated the PR now, so it should hopefully land soon, and then I just have to make an announcement</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834071" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834071">(May 16 2019 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I probably want to update the compiler-team repository to also include some definitions here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834124">(May 16 2019 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., taking the text of the RFC and adding it</p>



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<p>create a help-wanted thread on internals <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/77" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/77">compiler-team#77</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834232" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834232">(May 16 2019 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>assigned to me but i"ve still not done anything here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834237">(May 16 2019 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's not like it's very hard :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834262" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834262">(May 16 2019 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>And the initial post you had in mind is moot now.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834270">(May 16 2019 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, that's part of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834275">(May 16 2019 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I could do it and try to drive attention to some P-high bugs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834336">(May 16 2019 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>it can also wait; I still thikn it's probably a good idea but ... maybe not. unclear. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834352">(May 16 2019 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only other <em>assigned</em> issue is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834365">(May 16 2019 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Improve the working group check-in schedule. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60">#60</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834375">(May 16 2019 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>which I think is blocked on the zola work?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834382">(May 16 2019 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
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<p>create a help-wanted thread on internals <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/77" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/77">compiler-team#77</a></p>
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<p>It's sort of related to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/62" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/62">compiler-team#62</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834392">(May 16 2019 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>which I think is blocked on the zola work?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834412" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834412">(May 16 2019 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>It's sort of related to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/62" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/62">compiler-team#62</a>.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah, it is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834448">(May 16 2019 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, I guess we could chat a bit about next steps here; it seems lke we're reaching a <em>certain</em> "calm point", at least once the zola work proceeds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834467">(May 16 2019 at 18:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., we've kind of setup some basic infrastructure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834521">(May 16 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>about <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/87" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/87">compiler-team#87</a>, I think I can open a PR with at least one directory filled, so others can jump and make suggestions which would be easy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834525">(May 16 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>so maybe worth thinking about what we want to focus on next, or if we want to keep it moving slow, finish up the zola stuff, and then revisit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834539">(May 16 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>about <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/87" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/87">compiler-team#87</a>, I think I can open a PR with at least one directory filled, so others can jump and make suggestions which would be easy</p>
</blockquote>
<p>sounds good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834545" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834545">(May 16 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>about <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/87" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/87">compiler-team#87</a>, I think I can open a PR with at least one directory filled, so others can jump and make suggestions which would be easy</p>
</blockquote>
<p>or I can even continue and do it all :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834556">(May 16 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>but at least is a way to start moving the thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834572">(May 16 2019 at 18:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I assigned to you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834616">(May 16 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the "big ticket" things that remain are kind of</p>
<ul>
<li>give advice for running working groups</li>
<li>improving zola</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834623" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834623">(May 16 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>so maybe worth thinking about what we want to focus on next, or if we want to keep it moving slow, finish up the zola stuff, and then revisit</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What do you think is the next most important thing to tackle?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834634" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834634">(May 16 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I suppose that question has been answered.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834648">(May 16 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, improving zola probably isn't really a big ticket item</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834650" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834650">(May 16 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure what I meant by that actually :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834708">(May 16 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I was thinking about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834722">(May 16 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>that list that we made where we enumerated "all the tasks" in/around compiler-team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834731">(May 16 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me go looking...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834763">(May 16 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>let me go looking...</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AdMIxK_lItX1O_AI2qSLce46Ag-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-Meta-WG--AdMIxK_lItX1O_AI2qSLce46Ag-vnEJ2iD7MCc515MW2oR22">here</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834764">(May 16 2019 at 18:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-team-tasks-and-roles-TZxdEmmzMTD049QvEG4Li" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-team-tasks-and-roles-TZxdEmmzMTD049QvEG4Li">this list</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834812" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834812">(May 16 2019 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's a different list, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>, but also relevant, yes...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834817">(May 16 2019 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>We were thinking of different lists.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834841">(May 16 2019 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>right, the one I put, I feel like at some point I had hoped to kind of think about how to ensure that each of those things happens</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834858">(May 16 2019 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Let's go with that list then.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834950">(May 16 2019 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe a good starting point would be trying to assess which of them we do well now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834965">(May 16 2019 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Would it make sense to rank them?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165834988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165834988">(May 16 2019 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which you feel are most pressing/would be most beneficial to resolve?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835033">(May 16 2019 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps. I was debating about throwing them in a spreadsheet or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835099">(May 16 2019 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Could make another unwieldy markdown table.. <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61d" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835132" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835132">(May 16 2019 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835151" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835151">(May 16 2019 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we can start with this, skimming the list, throw some things onto Zulip that catch your eye</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835174" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835174">(May 16 2019 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>either because "that's really important" or "we do that pretty well" or "I have an idea for that" :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835196" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835196">(May 16 2019 at 18:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>is the idea to put this document on the repo?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835216" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835216">(May 16 2019 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, I don't know.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835296">(May 16 2019 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thnk this list doesn't necessarily want to go into any repo <em>but</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835300">(May 16 2019 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think trying to document out the things a wg should be doing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835303">(May 16 2019 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>and some ideas for how to achieve them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835308">(May 16 2019 at 18:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>is probably a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835335">(May 16 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>and that is kind of "contained within" this doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835376">(May 16 2019 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, my hunch is that, in this meeting, it's ok to just land the compiler contributors RFC, work on zola, at least for a bit. I feel like we're still "getting a feeling" for how WGs will work, and if the design meetings will pan out as a way to talk over changes etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835478">(May 16 2019 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>In no particular order, these are the key ones in my mind:</p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Deciding what projects we should be working on</li>
<li>Tracking what larger projects we are actively working on and their status</li>
<li>Providing a mentoring pathway to help committed folks learn more </li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>But also, "Surfacing larger tasks - ie. reasonably-well-documented things-we-want-to-do (such that someone could just go and start on) that aren't just in people's minds".</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835659" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835659">(May 16 2019 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>This feels right. I am thinking about that middle one a lot.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835685">(May 16 2019 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>But not just <em>tracking</em> but like <em>focusing attention</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835839" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835839">(May 16 2019 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, our times almost up in any case :) we can kind of think about that. The most actionable of those 3 might be the "mentoring" idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835862">(May 16 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>You did have a decent draft of the journeyperson role already written.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835905" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835905">(May 16 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I'm partially just thinking about how I want us to be kind of "coming together" around some concrete goals -- e.g., a super reactive IDE, or 10x improvement in compile time on certain tests, or something -- and that is often hard to achieve. Partially cause those goals are really hard. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835921" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835921">(May 16 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>You did have a decent draft of the journeyperson role already written.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah. Probably what's needed is just to kind of <em>try it</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165835926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165835926">(May 16 2019 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>the mentoring idea seems super nice and important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836035">(May 16 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I think I'm partially just thinking about how I want us to be kind of "coming together" around some concrete goals -- e.g., a super reactive IDE, or 10x improvement in compile time on certain tests, or something -- and that is often hard to achieve. Partially cause those goals are really hard. :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>but it's really that part of this WG?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836043">(May 16 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we have an open issue on that, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>? (The "mentoring" thing?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836049">(May 16 2019 at 18:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>It sort of ties into my fourth point in that it would surface these large tasks that normally just exist in people's minds for contributors to work on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836060">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Do we have an open issue on that, <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">davidtwco</span>? (The "mentoring" thing?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/56" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/56">compiler-team#56</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836072">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>but it's really that part of this WG?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>No, I mean, not really. :) I guess I would say only to the extent of providing a place to organize those things.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836082">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>ahhh :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836087" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836087">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>It sort of ties into my fourth point in that it would surface these large tasks that normally just exist in people's minds for contributors to work on.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I see, yes. So let's focus on that for a second--</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836095">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>one thing we might do is sketch a policy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836096">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounded a bit crazy when I read it :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836105" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836105">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then maybe tlak to people to try and nominate some ideas for projects that might be a good fit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836118" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836118">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> pre-triage <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836123">(May 16 2019 at 18:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>try to cajole <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836127" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836127">(May 16 2019 at 18:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836179">(May 16 2019 at 18:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, that reminds me, I'll be traveling next week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836192">(May 16 2019 at 18:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>if y'all want to hold the meeting, seems fine, but I think it's also ok to skip it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.16/near/165836233" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E16.html#165836233">(May 16 2019 at 18:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll delete from calendar, thanks all <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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